I am a little late to the party on this one, but I whipped up a pair of the trunks for my husband to see how they compared to some pricey RTW ones he likes. I even managed to add a stretch mesh support, uh, sling inside like the RTW ones have (they call it a “ball park”...heh, heh). He likes the Jalie pair just as well, if not better! With the instructional video for these (thank you!), they are super quick to sew up.